Connectionists: Stephen Hanson in conversation with Geoff Hinton

[Stephen José Hanson]

Since AIHUB was the one who posted the recent discussion between myself 
and Geoff, I suppose that could be the proximate causal event.
But in looking over the transcript, I think you are overreacting to the 
single en passant comment in an hour about you.   Hardly, a  "personal 
attack".

Moreover, I've known you for over 30 years, and frankly it does sound 
like something you might have said );-)   And I agree your positions in 
various books and articles have evolved over time.    But I and AIHUB 
are always happy to correct transcripts that have seriously 
miss-represented someone's claims.

I would encourage you to read the whole transcript, as you will see the 
discussion does intersect with a number of issues you raised in an 
earlier post on what is learned/represented in DLs.

Its important for those paying attention to this thread, to realize 
these are still very early times.    Many more shoes will drop in the 
next few years.  I for one don't believe one of those shoes will be 
Hybrid approaches to AI,  I've seen that movie before and it didn't end 
well.

Best and hope you are doing well.

Steve




On 2/2/22 9:52 PM, Gary Marcus wrote:
> Dear Geoff,
>
> Causality is often hard to establish, but I didn't start this thread; 
> I merely responded to a false assertion of yours that was publicized 
> at the top.
>
> More broadly, it's a shame for the field that you won't engage in the 
> real issues at hand, even with a clear home-court advantage.
>
> Gary
>
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2022, at 12:52, Geoffrey Hinton <geoffrey.hinton at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> You started this thread and it was a mistake for me to engage in 
>> arguing with you. I have said all I want to say.  You have endless 
>> time for arguing and I don't. I find it more productive to spend time 
>> writing programs to see what works and what doesn't. You should try 
>> it sometime.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>>
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