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<font size="+1" face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Since AIHUB was
the one who posted the recent discussion between myself and Geoff,
I suppose that could be the proximate causal event.</font><font
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">But in looking over the
transcript, I think you are overreacting to the single en
passant comment in an hour about you. Hardly, a "personal
attack". </font><br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Moreover, I've known you
for over 30 years, and frankly it does sound like something you
might have said );-) And I agree your positions in various
books and articles have evolved over time. But I and AIHUB
are always happy to correct transcripts that have seriously
miss-represented someone's claims. </font><br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I would encourage you to
read the whole transcript, as you will see the discussion does
intersect with a number of issues </font><font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif">you raised in an earlier post on what is
learned/represented in DLs.</font><br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font size="+1">Its
important for those paying attention to this thread, to
realize these are still very early times. Many more shoes
will drop in the next few years. I for one don't believe one
of those shoes will be Hybrid approaches to AI, I've seen
that movie before and it didn't end well. <br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font size="+1">Best
and hope you are doing well.</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font size="+1">Steve<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/2/22 9:52 PM, Gary Marcus wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Geoff,
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<div>Causality is often hard to establish, but I didn't start
this thread; I merely responded to a false assertion of
yours that was publicized at the top.</div>
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<div>More broadly, it's a shame for the field that you won't
engage in the real issues at hand, even with a clear
home-court advantage.</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Feb 2, 2022, at 12:52, Geoffrey
Hinton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:geoffrey.hinton@gmail.com"><geoffrey.hinton@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">You started this thread and it was a mistake
for me to engage in arguing with you. I have said all I
want to say. You have endless time for arguing and I
don't. I find it more productive to spend time writing
programs to see what works and what doesn't. You should
try it sometime.
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