Connectionists: An open letter to Geoffrey Hinton: A call for civilized, moderated debate

[Axel Hutt]

Dear Dr. Hinton and Dr. Marcus, 

I am sure that your personal dispute is important for you, while I am not sure that 
this contributes to the scientific knowledge which is one of the aims of this 
email list. 
I would like to ask you to refrain from sharing this seemingly personal dispute 
in this email list. 

Thanks in advance 

Axel 

----- On 10 Feb, 2024, at 16:33, Geoffrey Hinton <geoffrey.hinton at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I am sorry that i took a potshot at you. I will do my best not to do it again.
> Your aim in life seems to be to get attention and I regret facilitating this.

> Geoff

> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 8:14 AM Gary Marcus < [ mailto:gary.marcus at nyu.edu |
> gary.marcus at nyu.edu ] > wrote:

>> Dear Geoff,

>> Please stop taking potshots. Face me.

>> You say I am irrelevant, yet you attack (and misrepresent) me regularly in your
>> talks, including both this morning at The Vector Institute, and your “just
>> weights” riff in the Fall. On your web page, you have more mentions of me than
>> Yann LeCun. (What greater measure of relevance could there be?)

>> To make it easy for you, I will come to Toronto, on your home turf. (Perhaps
>> Vector Institute and Web Summit could co-host).

>> We will get a neutral moderator, and a huge audience. And we can fight together
>> for the things we are actually both concerned about, around AI safety, and make
>> a huge statement by doing so.

>> The world will learn from the debate—and also from our overlap. It will be
>> win-win for the world.

>> — Gary

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