<html><body><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Dear Dr. Hinton and Dr. Marcus,<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>I am sure that your personal dispute is important for you, while I am not sure that <br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>this contributes to the scientific knowledge which is one of the aims of this </div><div>email list.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>I would like to ask you to refrain from sharing this seemingly personal dispute</div><div>in this email list. <br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Thanks in advance<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Axel<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><div><span id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__">----- On 10 Feb, 2024, at 16:33, Geoffrey Hinton <geoffrey.hinton@gmail.com> wrote:<br></span></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div dir="auto">I am sorry that i took a potshot at you. I will do my best not to do it again. Your aim in life seems to be to get attention and I regret facilitating this.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Geoff</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 8:14 AM Gary Marcus <<a href="mailto:gary.marcus@nyu.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">gary.marcus@nyu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Geoff, <br>
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Please stop taking potshots. Face me. <br>
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You say I am irrelevant, yet you attack (and misrepresent) me regularly in your talks, including both this morning at The Vector Institute, and your “just weights” riff in the Fall. On your web page, you have more mentions of me than Yann LeCun. (What greater measure of relevance could there be?) <br>
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To make it easy for you, I will come to Toronto, on your home turf. (Perhaps Vector Institute and Web Summit could co-host). <br>
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We will get a neutral moderator, and a huge audience. And we can fight together for the things we are actually both concerned about, around AI safety, and make a huge statement by doing so.<br>
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The world will learn from the debate—and also from our overlap. It will be win-win for the world. <br>
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— Gary<br>
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</blockquote></div></div><br></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__SIG_POST__">-- <br></div><div>Axel Hutt<br>Directeur de Recherche<br>Equipe MIMESIS - INRIA Nancy Grand Est <br>Equipe MLMS - iCube Strasbourg<br>Bâtiment NextMed<br>4, rue Marie Hamm<br>67000 Strasbourg, France<br>https://mimesis.inria.fr/members/axel-hutt/<br></div></div></body></html>