[ACT-R-users] ACT-R hits the high street

Bonnie John bej at cs.cmu.edu
Tue Oct 9 16:41:41 EDT 2007 

If you read the whole thing, they did indeed not have modeling humans in 
mind. It lists the benefits as "too many to enumerate" but then go on to 
talk about modeling weather and earthquakes and medical stuff and 
military simulations, etc. etc. No humans to speak of.
Bonnie

Susan Chipman wrote:
>       Could indeed lead to problems.  Not necessarily "classified" but 
> in recent years there has been an irritating middle ground for 
> research managers such as I was.  "Classified" or not classified is 
> easier to deal with.  This sort of problem gets worse as priorities 
> move away from basic research.
>        On the other hand, someone may have hoped that making it a 
> critical technology would result in a better funding situation.  And 
> they may not have had modeling of humans in mind..
>  
> Susan
>
>  
> On 10/9/07, *Wayne Gray* <grayw at rpi.edu <mailto:grayw at rpi.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Does this mean that all of our research reports will now be
>     classified and that we will not be able to export the reports or our
>     models to foreign countries?
>
>
>
>
>     On Oct 9, 2007, at 15:22, Bonnie John wrote:
>
>     > While not quite as exciting, the US House of Representatives
>     recently
>     > resolved that modeling is a National Critical Technology. Don't you
>     > feel
>     > special?
>     > Bonnie
>     >
>     >
>     > H. Res. 487
>     > In the House of Representatives, U. S.,
>     > July 16, 2007.
>     > Whereas the United States of America is a great and prosperous
>     Nation,
>     > and modeling and simulation contribute significantly to that
>     greatness
>     > and prosperity;…
>     >
>     > Whereas modeling and simulation frequently complements or replaces
>     > experimentation where experimentation is hazardous, expensive, or
>     > impossible, thus providing far greater capability than
>     experimentation
>     > alone;…
>     >
>     > Resolved, That the House of Representatives--
>     > (1) commends those who have contributed to the modeling and
>     simulation
>     > efforts which have developed essential characteristics of our
>     Nation;…
>     > (4) recognizes modeling and simulation as a National Critical
>     > Technology;…
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Larry Daily wrote:
>     >> David,
>     >>
>     >> While I agree with you in general, I found L. Helmsley's model of
>     >> end-of-life decision-making quite interesting. I do think the
>     >> conflict
>     >> resolution parameter was a bit off, though.
>     >>
>     >> Larry
>     >>
>     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >> From: act-r-users-bounces at act-r.psy.cmu.edu
>     <mailto:act-r-users-bounces at act-r.psy.cmu.edu>
>     >> [mailto: act-r-users-bounces at act-r.psy.cmu.edu
>     <mailto:act-r-users-bounces at act-r.psy.cmu.edu>] On Behalf Of David
>     >> Peebles
>     >> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:22 AM
>     >> To: Hedderik van Rijn
>     >> Cc: act-r-users at act-r.psy.cmu.edu
>     <mailto:act-r-users at act-r.psy.cmu.edu>
>     >> Subject: Re: [ACT-R-users] ACT-R hits the high street
>     >>
>     >> I've read it (I get it every week just for the cognitive modelling
>     >> articles and the fashion tips) and although it's a UK based ACT-R
>     >> modeller they interviewed, but of course naming no names (it was
>     >> Howes),
>     >> it's nothing special -- just the same old "Oh, it was a nightmare
>     >> trying
>     >> to fit the model -- it nearly killed me getting a stable value for
>     >> the
>     >> learning parameter and Dan was no help at all etc. etc..."  You get
>     >> these cognitive modelling sob stories in the fashion weeklies
>     all the
>     >> time in the UK.  It's old news.  Move along, nothing to see
>     here...
>     >>
>     >> David
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>> -----Original Message-----
>     >>> From: Hedderik van Rijn [mailto:hedderik at van-rijn.org
>     <mailto:hedderik at van-rijn.org>]
>     >>> Sent: 09 October 2007 14:37
>     >>> To: David Peebles
>     >>> Cc: act-r-users at act-r.psy.cmu.edu
>     <mailto:act-r-users at act-r.psy.cmu.edu>
>     >>> Subject: Re: [ACT-R-users] ACT-R hits the high street
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Wow, modelling is really hot in the UK! It's even making it to the
>     >>> cover of the glossies! I'm wondering who they interviewed...
>     >>>
>     >>>   - Hedderik.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
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>     >>
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