From intilinux at gmail.com  Thu May  3 07:48:22 2012
From: intilinux at gmail.com (IntiLinuX)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:48:22 +0200
Subject: [Olympus developers 340]:  concurrent session
Message-ID: <CAGMKHDifYJbC+qBpM19pnNw_4p9arwa8Hc2kJjppsS3x4zdiMg@mail.gmail.com>

You can start multiple sessions simultaneously?
you can only start one session at a time?

THANKS

From Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu  Thu May  3 08:14:48 2012
From: Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu (Alex Rudnicky)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:14:48 -0400
Subject: [Olympus developers 341]: Re: concurrent session
In-Reply-To: <CAGMKHDifYJbC+qBpM19pnNw_4p9arwa8Hc2kJjppsS3x4zdiMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGMKHDifYJbC+qBpM19pnNw_4p9arwa8Hc2kJjppsS3x4zdiMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11B6FA6BC9879A42BE5A6227C05F3E1F01E0F86BEEF7@EXCH-MB-1.srv.cs.cmu.edu>

Not sure what you mean.

Note that you should be able to run multiple instances of Olympus on a single machine, but you will need to change the port numbers in the relevant places (ie hub programs). We're built systems that have multiple audio managers, for multiple inputs, which is another possibility. The dialog manager is not set up to manage multiple concurrent states. 

Alex


-----Original Message-----
From: olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu [mailto:olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of IntiLinuX
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 7:48 AM
To: olympus-developers at cs.cmu.edu
Subject: [Olympus developers 340]: concurrent session

You can start multiple sessions simultaneously?
you can only start one session at a time?

THANKS


From aasishp at gmail.com  Thu May  3 08:10:37 2012
From: aasishp at gmail.com (Aasish Pappu)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:10:37 -0400
Subject: [Olympus developers 342]: Re: concurrent session
In-Reply-To: <CAGMKHDifYJbC+qBpM19pnNw_4p9arwa8Hc2kJjppsS3x4zdiMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGMKHDifYJbC+qBpM19pnNw_4p9arwa8Hc2kJjppsS3x4zdiMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJSHq+E4dtcNNHW4i_r7qyRi7FtkD5c7xaJ3yKwxb0tMggHizQ@mail.gmail.com>

Only one session at a time.
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:48 AM, IntiLinuX <intilinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> You can start multiple sessions simultaneously?
> you can only start one session at a time?
>
> THANKS



-- 
Aasish Pappu

From protoss1210 at yahoo.com  Mon May  7 15:00:42 2012
From: protoss1210 at yahoo.com (Chris E)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 12:00:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Olympus developers 343]:  CMU Olympus *nix Conversion Status
Message-ID: <1336417242.12995.YahooMailNeo@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I recently came across the CMU Olympus Framework and I am interested in learning about the challenges and 
progress in running Olympus in an embedded linux environment (e.g. 
robots, cars, smart phones, etc).


I read the following threads:
http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/2009-January/000082.html
http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/2009-January/000083.html

I was just wondering if anything has changed since then, and what kinds 
of issues would developers face when trying to port Olympus (memory, 
windows API dependencies, CPU, etc).

In particular I have been looking at the RavenClaw Dialogue system so I would be interested in learning more about the difficulties for this task with respect to this module.


Thank you so much for your time and help. I look forward to hearing from you.


Best regards,Chris
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/attachments/20120507/29f10958/attachment.html

From Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu  Mon May  7 17:55:47 2012
From: Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu (Alex Rudnicky)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 17:55:47 -0400
Subject: [Olympus developers 344]: Re: CMU Olympus *nix Conversion Status
In-Reply-To: <1336417242.12995.YahooMailNeo@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1336417242.12995.YahooMailNeo@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <11B6FA6BC9879A42BE5A6227C05F3E1F01E0F867A26B@EXCH-MB-1.srv.cs.cmu.edu>

Some work has been done on this but it is not complete.
The Ravenclaw code was written to minimize dependence on Windows (with a view to an eventual port).
The key issue is finding/writing a substitute for the Microsoft string library.
I expect there are syntax issues.
Note that the messaging layer is written in Python.

From: olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu [mailto:olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Chris E
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:01 PM
To: olympus-developers at cs.cmu.edu
Subject: [Olympus developers 343]: CMU Olympus *nix Conversion Status

Hello,

I recently came across the CMU Olympus Framework and I am interested in learning about the challenges and progress in running Olympus in an embedded linux environment (e.g. robots, cars, smart phones, etc).

I read the following threads:
http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/2009-January/000082.html
http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/2009-January/000083.html

I was just wondering if anything has changed since then, and what kinds of issues would developers face when trying to port Olympus (memory, windows API dependencies, CPU, etc).

In particular I have been looking at the RavenClaw Dialogue system so I would be interested in learning more about the difficulties for this task with respect to this module.

Thank you so much for your time and help. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,
Chris
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/attachments/20120507/fad03827/attachment.html

From tsydorenko at pdx.edu  Sat May 12 16:01:00 2012
From: tsydorenko at pdx.edu (Tetyana Sydorenko)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 13:01:00 -0700
Subject: [Olympus developers 345]:  problems with Tutorial 1 and 2
In-Reply-To: <CAM78NJgpqBAck6XnQmVH2QYwT29UzvVfjR2ppnVq0MXO5_OZug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM78NJgpqBAck6XnQmVH2QYwT29UzvVfjR2ppnVq0MXO5_OZug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM78NJh9_nVLB_2N0epaSo8RmfxMNVpM4Jr7Sb81VEPHgR5D9A@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Olympus developers:

I installed Olympus and all the prerequisite programs, and then tried
Tutorial 1 and 2. I don't think they worked properly.

Yesterday in Tutorial 1 I got (I am using Flite):

S: ?Welcome to MyBus.
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A AGAIN
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): .WHEN. WHEN IS THE ONE
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A .NEW. HILL
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.84404): A NEW QUERY
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.84404): A NEW QUERY
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A NEW
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A NEW
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?

I wasn't able to enter textual input.



Today in Tutorial 1 I got:

New session starting at 09:59:27.916
------------------------------------

S: ?Welcome to MyBus.

S: ?Where are you leaving from?

U(0.00000): A
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?

U(0.00000): A
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
downtown

S: ?Where are you going?
the airport

S: ?Just a minute. Let me check that for you.

U(0.00000): THE
U(tty):

My BusDM got stopped by itself.



In tutorial 2, I am getting:

Opened listener on port 11001
Accepted connection from 127.0.0.1 (socket 140)
init_session

1. I was wondering if I installed something incorrectly or what the
problem may be.

2. Also, how do you I modify one of the tutorials, for example
Tutorial 1, to create my own "dialog system"?

Thank you.

Tetyana

---

Tetyana Sydorenko, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Applied Linguistics
Portland State University
PO Box 751
Portland, OR 97207-0751 USA
Phone: (503) 725-2386
Fax: (503)?725-4139

Physical address:
East Hall 235
632 SW Hall Street
Portland, Oregon, USA 97207-0751


From Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu  Sat May 12 18:36:58 2012
From: Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu (Alex Rudnicky)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 18:36:58 -0400
Subject: [Olympus developers 346]: Re: problems with Tutorial 1 and 2
In-Reply-To: <CAM78NJh9_nVLB_2N0epaSo8RmfxMNVpM4Jr7Sb81VEPHgR5D9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM78NJgpqBAck6XnQmVH2QYwT29UzvVfjR2ppnVq0MXO5_OZug@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM78NJh9_nVLB_2N0epaSo8RmfxMNVpM4Jr7Sb81VEPHgR5D9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11B6FA6BC9879A42BE5A6227C05F3E1F01E0F86BEF11@EXCH-MB-1.srv.cs.cmu.edu>

Your recognition is very poor and rather degenerate (the same words keep showing up). This usually means that the stuff getting to the decoder is corrupted in some way (though a bad language model might also do it). The things to check include:

1) is the input through the mic that you intended? (ie, headset or bezel; headset is more reliable.)
2) is the sampling rate correct?
3) is the signal too loud/soft?

I would probably use Audacity on one of the logged waveforms to make sure that the signal looks ok. Check both waveform for amplitude (clipping is particularly harmful) and spectrum (it should be reasonably noise-free and match the nominal bandwidth of your acoustic models).

Alex


-----Original Message-----
From: olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu [mailto:olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Tetyana Sydorenko
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 4:01 PM
To: olympus-developers at cs.cmu.edu
Subject: [Olympus developers 345]: problems with Tutorial 1 and 2

Dear Olympus developers:

I installed Olympus and all the prerequisite programs, and then tried Tutorial 1 and 2. I don't think they worked properly.

Yesterday in Tutorial 1 I got (I am using Flite):

S: ?Welcome to MyBus.
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A AGAIN
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): .WHEN. WHEN IS THE ONE
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A .NEW. HILL
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.84404): A NEW QUERY
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.84404): A NEW QUERY
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A NEW
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A NEW
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?

I wasn't able to enter textual input.



Today in Tutorial 1 I got:

New session starting at 09:59:27.916
------------------------------------

S: ?Welcome to MyBus.

S: ?Where are you leaving from?

U(0.00000): A
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?

U(0.00000): A
U(tty):
S: ?Where are you leaving from?
downtown

S: ?Where are you going?
the airport

S: ?Just a minute. Let me check that for you.

U(0.00000): THE
U(tty):

My BusDM got stopped by itself.



In tutorial 2, I am getting:

Opened listener on port 11001
Accepted connection from 127.0.0.1 (socket 140) init_session

1. I was wondering if I installed something incorrectly or what the problem may be.

2. Also, how do you I modify one of the tutorials, for example Tutorial 1, to create my own "dialog system"?

Thank you.

Tetyana

---

Tetyana Sydorenko, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Applied Linguistics
Portland State University
PO Box 751
Portland, OR 97207-0751 USA
Phone: (503) 725-2386
Fax: (503)?725-4139

Physical address:
East Hall 235
632 SW Hall Street
Portland, Oregon, USA 97207-0751



From adagio33 at empas.com  Wed May 16 04:52:24 2012
From: adagio33 at empas.com (=?UTF-8?B?7ISc7Z2s7LKg?=)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 17:52:24 +0900
Subject: [Olympus developers 347]:
	=?utf-8?q?=5BOlympus_system=5D_download_page=2E?=
Message-ID: <1434d8e94278f00b94d1c92323459da6$90a476cb@mail3.nate.com>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/attachments/20120516/a745e68b/attachment.html

From manav.goel99 at gmail.com  Sun May 20 05:40:33 2012
From: manav.goel99 at gmail.com (Manav Goel)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 15:10:33 +0530
Subject: [Olympus developers 348]: Buildiing Olympus solutions with VC ++
	2008 Express Edition
Message-ID: <CAF+ezZtRn_8pMyMa2eqQxXmoshRyT3thGhVp6xPP_nRPU+br5A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
  I wish to build the Olympus environment using the perl script *
"OlympusBuild,pl"*. The examples involve the usage of "altbase.h" header
files, but as I searched through the internet I found out that ALT and MFC
libraries are not found with the free versions for the same.
 I found the first mail in the thread
http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/2010-September.txtto
be similar to mine, but without any satisfactory solution. I just wish
to know whether any alternative for the same exist and what functionality
does this serve in the case of SimpleAudio and other sample examples.



-- 
Thanks
Manav Goel
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/attachments/20120520/5f27b0ac/attachment.html

From Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu  Mon May 21 12:28:23 2012
From: Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu (Alex Rudnicky)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:28:23 -0400
Subject: [Olympus developers 349]: Re: Buildiing Olympus solutions with VC
 ++	2008 Express Edition
In-Reply-To: <CAF+ezZtRn_8pMyMa2eqQxXmoshRyT3thGhVp6xPP_nRPU+br5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF+ezZtRn_8pMyMa2eqQxXmoshRyT3thGhVp6xPP_nRPU+br5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11B6FA6BC9879A42BE5A6227C05F3E1F01E0F89010FC@EXCH-MB-1.srv.cs.cmu.edu>

Did you mean altbase.h or atlbase.h? The problem should be with the latter; it's not included in the 'express' version of the compiler.

On the positive side, atlbase.h seems to be required only for the SAPI versions of the synthesizers. You should work with the flite version. (MS has stopped maintaining SAPI as a separate library; it's been merged into a more comprehensive media library.) As a last resort you might simply comment out code that needs it.

Alex


From: olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu [mailto:olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Manav Goel
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:41 AM
To: olympus-developers at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu
Subject: [Olympus developers 348]: Buildiing Olympus solutions with VC ++ 2008 Express Edition

Hi,
  I wish to build the Olympus environment using the perl script "OlympusBuild,pl". The examples involve the usage of "altbase.h" header files, but as I searched through the internet I found out that ALT and MFC libraries are not found with the free versions for the same.
 I found the first mail in the thread  http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/2010-September.txt to be similar to mine, but without any satisfactory solution. I just wish to know whether any alternative for the same exist and what functionality does this serve in the case of SimpleAudio and other sample examples.



--
Thanks
Manav Goel
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/attachments/20120521/b80b0989/attachment.html

From nick_kouroupas at hotmail.com  Tue May 29 10:32:05 2012
From: nick_kouroupas at hotmail.com (Nikos Kouroupas)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:32:05 +0300
Subject: [Olympus developers 350]: How to include additional dependecies
	directories to BackendServer.
Message-ID: <DUB109-W1176F5D3F4243C2F6330AC7E4050@phx.gbl>


Hello,

I would like to connect the BackendServer with the Matlab engine. I need 
to include certain paths with header and library files from the Matlab 
directory. So far, whenever I wanted some header file included, I simply 
added it to the "2.5\Agents\BackendServer\Makefile". However, I cannot 
understand how to fill in a directory, all my attempts have no results.

For example, I need to make use of:

"C:\Program Files\MATLAB\R2011a\extern\include"
"C:\Program Files\MATLAB\R2011a\extern\lib\win64\microsoft"

and certain files such as:   "libmx.lib"

It would be very helpful, if you could give me some information about 
how I can use the Makefile in order to do what I need to. Please let me 
know if I have to change some other file too.

Thank you, Nikos Kouroupas


 		 	   		  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/attachments/20120529/223db512/attachment.html

From titoazevedo at ua.pt  Wed May 30 10:46:19 2012
From: titoazevedo at ua.pt (Tito Azevedo)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:46:19 +0100
Subject: [Olympus developers 351]: Ravenclaw Olympus with Microsoft Speech
	API
Message-ID: <web-159770012@controller2.cgpmail.ua.pt>

Good afternoon. I'm a portuguese student from Universidade 
of Aveiro and as a project for a course I'm developing an 
application based on Ravenclaw Olympus.

I was wondering if there is any possibility of using the 
Microsoft Speech API so that we can have the ASR part in 
our native language. I've tried to search for a solution 
for this problem but couldn't find any so I decided to 
send you an e-mail to see if I could get any help.

I'm very interested in using Ravenclaw Olympus and I think 
my project could have a very interesting approach if I'm 
able to use the Microsoft Speech API with Olympus.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Tito Azevedo.

From Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu  Wed May 30 12:31:54 2012
From: Alex.Rudnicky at cs.cmu.edu (Alex Rudnicky)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:31:54 -0400
Subject: [Olympus developers 352]: Re: Ravenclaw Olympus with Microsoft
 Speech	API
In-Reply-To: <web-159770012@controller2.cgpmail.ua.pt>
References: <web-159770012@controller2.cgpmail.ua.pt>
Message-ID: <11B6FA6BC9879A42BE5A6227C05F3E1F01E0F89013A1@EXCH-MB-1.srv.cs.cmu.edu>

Tito,

The SAPI interface has not been updated for a little while and in the meanwhile Microsoft changed the interface to their services. This is mostly because users have made use of the other synthesizers. If you will be using SAPI it would be great if you updated the interface and shared it with the rest of the community!

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu [mailto:olympus-developers-bounces at mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Tito Azevedo
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:46 AM
To: olympus-developers at cs.cmu.edu
Subject: [Olympus developers 351]: Ravenclaw Olympus with Microsoft Speech API

Good afternoon. I'm a portuguese student from Universidade of Aveiro and as a project for a course I'm developing an application based on Ravenclaw Olympus.

I was wondering if there is any possibility of using the Microsoft Speech API so that we can have the ASR part in our native language. I've tried to search for a solution for this problem but couldn't find any so I decided to send you an e-mail to see if I could get any help.

I'm very interested in using Ravenclaw Olympus and I think my project could have a very interesting approach if I'm able to use the Microsoft Speech API with Olympus.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Tito Azevedo.


From tsydorenko at pdx.edu  Wed May  9 13:24:19 2012
From: tsydorenko at pdx.edu (Tetyana Sydorenko)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 17:24:19 -0000
Subject: [Olympus developers 354]:  problems with Tutorial 1 and 2
Message-ID: <CAM78NJgpqBAck6XnQmVH2QYwT29UzvVfjR2ppnVq0MXO5_OZug@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Olympus developers:

I installed Olympus and all the prerequisite programs, and then tried
Tutorial 1 and 2. I don't think they worked properly.

Yesterday in Tutorial 1 I got (I am using Flite):

S:  Welcome to MyBus.
S:  Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A AGAIN
U(tty):
S:  Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): .WHEN. WHEN IS THE ONE
U(tty):
S:  Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A .NEW. HILL
U(tty):
S:  Where are you leaving from?
U(0.84404): A NEW QUERY
U(tty):
S:  Where are you leaving from?
U(0.84404): A NEW QUERY
U(tty):
S:  Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A NEW
U(tty):
S:  Where are you leaving from?
U(0.00000): A NEW
U(tty):
S:  Where are you leaving from?

I wasn't able to enter textual input.



Today in Tutorial 1 I got:

New session starting at 09:59:27.916
------------------------------------

S:  Welcome to MyBus.

S:  Where are you leaving from?

U(0.00000): A
U(tty):
S:  Where are you leaving from?

U(0.00000): A
U(tty):
S:  Where are you leaving from?
downtown

S:  Where are you going?
the airport

S:  Just a minute. Let me check that for you.

U(0.00000): THE
U(tty):

My BusDM got stopped by itself.



In tutorial 2, I am getting:

Opened listener on port 11001
Accepted connection from 127.0.0.1 (socket 140)
init_session

(Also see the screenshot).

I was wondering if I installed something incorrectly or what the problem may be.

Thank you.

Tetyana

---

Tetyana Sydorenko, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Applied Linguistics
Portland State University
PO Box 751
Portland, OR 97207-0751 USA
Phone: (503) 725-2386
Fax: (503)?725-4139

Physical address:
East Hall 235
632 SW Hall Street
Portland, Oregon, USA 97207-0751
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: Tutorial 2 screen shot.png
Type: image/png
Size: 68210 bytes
Desc: not available
Url : http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/attachments/20120509/6a262943/Tutorial2screenshot-0001.png

From erelsgl at gmail.com  Mon May 21 02:42:31 2012
From: erelsgl at gmail.com (Erel Segal Halevi)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 09:42:31 +0300
Subject: [Olympus developers 355]:  subscribe / Phoenix manual
Message-ID: <CAF6EEz=BFzSVLcLdF95PwhLNtxodsfZ3ZZ3LHKF794eyue43_w@mail.gmail.com>

A. I would like to subscribe to the mailing list.
B. This page: http://wiki.speech.cs.cmu.edu/olympus/index.php/Phoenixrefers
to "page 21 of the Phoenix
manual <http://cslr.colorado.edu/%7Ewhw/phoenix/Phoenix_Manual.pdf>", but
the link seems to be broken.

-- Erel Segal Halevi
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu/pipermail/olympus-developers/attachments/20120521/494bbf88/attachment.html