Connectionists: Weird beliefs about consciousness

[Stephen José Hanson]

this is a great list of behavior..

Some biologically might be termed reflexive, taxes, classically 
conditioned, implicit (memory/learning)... all however would not be
conscious in the several senses:  (1)  wakefulness-- sleep  (2) self 
aware (3) explicit/declarative.

I think the term is used very loosely, and I believe what GPT3 and other 
AI are hoping to show signs of is "self-awareness"..

In response to :  "why are you doing that?", "What are you doing now", 
"what will you be doing in 2030?"

Steve


On 2/14/22 10:46 AM, Iam Palatnik wrote:
> A somewhat related question, just out of curiosity.
>
> Imagine the following:
>
> - An automatic solar panel that tracks the position of the sun.
> - A group of single celled microbes with phototaxis that follow the 
> sunlight.
> - A jellyfish (animal without a brain) that follows/avoids the sunlight.
> - A cockroach (animal with a brain) that avoids the sunlight.
> - A drone with onboard AI that flies to regions of more intense 
> sunlight to recharge its batteries.
> - A human that dislikes sunlight and actively avoids it.
>
> Can any of these, beside the human, be said to be aware or conscious 
> of the sunlight, and why?
> What is most relevant? Being a biological life form, having a brain, 
> being able to make decisions based on the environment? Being 
> taxonomically close to humans?
>
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> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 12:06 PM Gary Marcus <gary.marcus at nyu.edu 
> <mailto:gary.marcus at nyu.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Also true: Many AI researchers are very unclear about what
>     consciousness is and also very sure that ELIZA doesn’t have it.
>
>     Neither ELIZA nor GPT-3 have
>     - anything remotely related to embodiment
>     - any capacity to reflect upon themselves
>
>     Hypothesis: neither keyword matching nor tensor manipulation, even
>     at scale, suffice in themselves to qualify for consciousness.
>
>     - Gary
>
>     > On Feb 14, 2022, at 00:24, Geoffrey Hinton
>     <geoffrey.hinton at gmail.com <mailto:geoffrey.hinton at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Many AI researchers are very unclear about what consciousness
>     is and also very sure that GPT-3 doesn’t have it. It’s a strange
>     combination.
>     >
>     >
>
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