Connectionists: Yann Le Cun and Stephen Hanson on Yann's new vision of AI

[gary@ucsd.edu]

there should be a deep learning system to fix the sound...

g.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 6:41 AM Stephen José Hanson <jose at rubic.rutgers.edu>
wrote:

> In the last year, Yann Le Cun has posted a new vision for AI, partly
> avoiding the ambiguous complexity of LLM, and AGI, he focuses on
> explicit reasoning systems, going beyond the implicit classification
> systems which have been so successful with Deep Learning.  Like other AI
> leaders, he realized that  somethingthay must be scaled down before scaling
> up.  It would be better to get the reasoning sense of a non-human mammal,
> say a cat, then jump to human reasoning, Yann argues.
>
> This also underscores, I think,  much of the problem with LLM--e.g.
> ChatBOTs, which probably  will be a concern for classicial lingustics,
> nonetheless are inscructable.
>
> At the same time critics have emerged, because when one provides enough
> detail of a specific vision it is both courageous and risky.   Our favorite
> critic/troll, Gary Marcus wrote several critiques (see  the one below),
> and  Yann and Jake Browning tried to clarify, and deflate some of the
> Marcus arguments, as many of them  appear to almost perversely
> misunderstand the difference between complex Nerual Network architectures
> and symbolic systems from the 1970s (which mostly didn't work).
>
> Here is the conversation in whole focused entirely on Yann's new AI
> vision.  Cheers and Happy Holidays--Steve
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s2S2l2OvdM&t=32s
>
> The  description of the paper and critques.
>
> https://ai.facebook.com/blog/yann-lecun-advances-in-ai-research/
>
>
> https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/24/1054817/yann-lecun-bold-new-vision-future-ai-deep-learning-meta/
>
> https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/how-new-are-yann-lecuns-new-ideas
>
> https://www.noemamag.com/what-ai-can-tell-us-about-intelligence/
>
> *(due to a small mic issue, we have also closed captioned the conversation)
>
> --
> Stephen José Hanson
> Professor, Psychology Department
> Director, RUBIC (Rutgers University Brain Imaging Center)
> Member, Executive Committee, RUCCS
>
>
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