GPU3 back in business

Dougal Sutherland dougal at gmail.com
Fri Oct 21 17:07:35 EDT 2016


I don't think it would be a bad thing to have both versions of cuda
installed and default to 8.0. To use 7.5 for matlab you probably just have
to write a wrapper script to set LD_LIBRARY_FLAGS appropriately.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 9:21 PM Kirthevasan Kandasamy <kandasamy at cmu.edu>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was planning on using Matlab with GPUs for one of my projects.
> Can we please keep gpu2 as it is for now?
>
> samy
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Barnabas Poczos <bapoczos at cs.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Sounds good. Let us have tensorflow system wide on all GPU nodes. We
> can worry about Matlab later.
>
> Best,
> B
> ======================
> Barnabas Poczos, PhD
> Assistant Professor
> Machine Learning Department
> Carnegie Mellon University
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Predrag Punosevac <predragp at cs.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
> > Barnabas Poczos <bapoczos at cs.cmu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Predrag,
> >>
> >> If there is no other solution, then I think it is OK not to have
> >> Matlab on GPU2 and GPU3.
> >> Tensorflow has higher priority on these nodes.
> >
> > We could possibly have multiple CUDA libraries for different versions
> > but that is going to bite us for the rear end quickly. People who want
> > to use MATLAB with GPUs will have to live with GPU1 probably until
> > Spring release of MATLAB.
> >
> > Predrag
> >
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Barnabas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ======================
> >> Barnabas Poczos, PhD
> >> Assistant Professor
> >> Machine Learning Department
> >> Carnegie Mellon University
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Predrag Punosevac <predragp at cs.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
> >> > Dougal Sutherland <dougal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sorry that I am late for the party. This is my interpretation of what
> we
> >> > should do.
> >> >
> >> > 1. I will go back to CUDA 8.0 which will brake MATLAB. We have to live
> >> > with it. Barnabas please OK this. I will work with MathWorks for this
> to
> >> > be fixed for 2017a release.
> >> >
> >> > 2. Then I could install TensorFlow compiled by Dougal system wide.
> >> > Please Dugal after I upgrade back to 8.0 recompile it again using CUDA
> >> > 8.0. I could give you the root password so that you can compile and
> >> > install directly.
> >> >
> >> > 3. If everyone is OK with above I will pull the trigger on GPU3 at
> >> > 4:30PM and upgrade to 8.0
> >> >
> >> > 4. MATLAB will be broken on GPU2 as well after I put Titan cards
> during
> >> > the October 25 power outrage.
> >> >
> >> > Predrag
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Heh. :)
> >> >>
> >> >> An explanation:
> >> >>
> >> >>    - Different nvidia gpu architectures are called "compute
> capabilities".
> >> >>    This is a number that describes the behavior of the card: the
> maximum size
> >> >>    of various things, which API functions it supports, etc. There's a
> >> >>    reference here
> >> >>    <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#Version_features_and_specifications>,
> >> >>    but it shouldn't really matter.
> >> >>    - When CUDA compiles code, it targets a certain architecture,
> since it
> >> >>    needs to know what features to use and whatnot. I *think* that if
> you
> >> >>    compile for compute capability x, it will work on a card with
> compute
> >> >>    capability y approximately iff x <= y.
> >> >>    - Pascal Titan Xs, like gpu3 has, have compute capability 6.1.
> >> >>    - CUDA 7.5 doesn't know about compute capability 6.1, so if you
> ask to
> >> >>    compile for 6.1 it crashes.
> >> >>    - Theano by default tries to compile for the capability of the
> card, but
> >> >>    can be configured to compile for a different capability.
> >> >>    - Tensorflow asks for a list of capabilities to compile for when
> you
> >> >>    build it in the first place.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:17 PM Dougal Sutherland <dougal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > They do work with 7.5 if you specify an older compute
> architecture; it's
> >> >> > just that their actual compute capability of 6.1 isn't supported
> by cuda
> >> >> > 7.5. Thank is thrown off by this, for example, but it can be fixed
> by
> >> >> > telling it to pass compute capability 5.2 (for example) to nvcc. I
> don't
> >> >> > think that this was my problem with building tensorflow on 7.5;
> I'm not
> >> >> > sure what that was.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 8:11 PM Kirthevasan Kandasamy <
> kandasamy at cmu.edu>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks Dougal. I'll take a look atthis and get back to you.
> >> >> > So are you suggesting that this is an issue with TitanX's not being
> >> >> > compatible with 7.5?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Dougal Sutherland <
> dougal at gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I installed it in my scratch directory (not sure if there's a
> global
> >> >> > install?). The main thing was to put its cache on scratch; it got
> really
> >> >> > upset when the cache directory was on NFS. (Instructions at the
> bottom of
> >> >> > my previous email.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 8:04 PM Barnabas Poczos <bapoczos at cs.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's great! Thanks Dougal.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As I remember bazel was not installed correctly previously on
> GPU3. Do
> >> >> > you know what went wrong with it before and why it is good now?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Barnabas
> >> >> > ======================
> >> >> > Barnabas Poczos, PhD
> >> >> > Assistant Professor
> >> >> > Machine Learning Department
> >> >> > Carnegie Mellon University
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Dougal Sutherland <
> dougal at gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > > I was just able to build tensorflow 0.11.0rc0 on gpu3! I used
> the cuda
> >> >> > 8.0
> >> >> > > install, and it built fine. So additionally installing 7.5 was
> probably
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > > necessary; in fact, cuda 7.5 doesn't know about the 6.1 compute
> >> >> > architecture
> >> >> > > that the Titan Xs use, so Theano at least needs to be manually
> told to
> >> >> > use
> >> >> > > an older architecture.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > A pip package is in
> ~dsutherl/tensorflow-0.11.0rc0-py2-none-any.whl. I
> >> >> > think
> >> >> > > it should work fine with the cudnn in my scratch directory.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > You should probably install it to scratch, either running this
> first to
> >> >> > put
> >> >> > > libraries your scratch directory or using a virtualenv or
> something:
> >> >> > > export PYTHONUSERBASE=/home/scratch/$USER/.local
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > You'll need this to use the library and probably to install it:
> >> >> > > export
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/scratch/dsutherl/cudnn-8.0-5.1/cuda/lib64:"$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > To install:
> >> >> > > pip install --user
> ~dsutherl/tensorflow-0.11.0rc0-py2-none-any.whl
> >> >> > > (remove --user if you're using a virtualenv)
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > (A request: I'm submitting to ICLR in two weeks, and for some of
> the
> >> >> > models
> >> >> > > I'm running gpu3's cards are 4x the speed of gpu1 or 2's. So
> please don't
> >> >> > > run a ton of stuff on gpu3 unless you're working on a deadline
> too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Steps to install it, for the future:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Install bazel in your home directory:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > wget
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> https://github.com/bazelbuild/bazel/releases/download/0.3.2/bazel-0.3.2-installer-linux-x86_64.sh
> >> >> > > bash bazel-0.3.2-installer-linux-x86_64.sh
> --prefix=/home/scratch/$USER
> >> >> > > --base=/home/scratch/$USER/.bazel
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Configure bazel to build in scratch. There's probably a better
> way to do
> >> >> > > this, but this works:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > mkdir /home/scratch/$USER/.cache
> >> >> > > ln -s /home/scratch/$USER/.cache/bazel ~/.cache/bazel
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Build tensorflow. Note that builds from git checkouts don't
> work, because
> >> >> > > they assume a newer version of git than is on gpu3:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > cd /home/scratch/$USER
> >> >> > > wget
> >> >> > > tar xf
> >> >> > > cd tensorflow-0.11.0rc0
> >> >> > > ./configure
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This is an interactive script that doesn't seem to let you pass
> >> >> > arguments or
> >> >> > > anything. It's obnoxious.
> >> >> > > Use the default python
> >> >> > > don't use cloud platform or hadoop file system
> >> >> > > use the default site-packages path if it asks
> >> >> > > build with GPU support
> >> >> > > default gcc
> >> >> > > default Cuda SDK version
> >> >> > > specify /usr/local/cuda-8.0
> >> >> > > default cudnn version
> >> >> > > specify $CUDNN_DIR from use-cudnn.sh, e.g.
> >> >> > > /home/scratch/dsutherl/cudnn-8.0-5.1/cuda
> >> >> > > Pascal Titan Xs have compute capability 6.1
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > bazel build -c opt --config=cuda
> >> >> > > //tensorflow/tools/pip_package:build_pip_package
> >> >> > > bazel-bin/tensorflow/tools/pip_package/build_pip_package ./
> >> >> > > A .whl file, e.g. tensorflow-0.11.0rc0-py2-none-any.whl, is put
> in the
> >> >> > > directory you specified above.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > - Dougal
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:14 PM Kirthevasan Kandasamy <
> kandasamy at cmu.edu
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Predrag,
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Any updates on gpu3?
> >> >> > >> I have tried both tensorflow and chainer and in both cases the
> problem
> >> >> > >> seems to be with cuda
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Predrag Punosevac <
> predragp at cs.cmu.edu
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> wrote:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Dougal Sutherland <dougal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > I tried for a while. I failed.
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Damn this doesn't look good. I guess back to the drawing
> board. Thanks
> >> >> > >>> for the quick feed back.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Predrag
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > Version 0.10.0 fails immediately on build: "The specified
> >> >> > >>> > --crosstool_top
> >> >> > >>> > '@local_config_cuda//crosstool:crosstool' is not a valid
> >> >> > >>> > cc_toolchain_suite
> >> >> > >>> > rule." Apparently this is because 0.10 required an older
> version of
> >> >> > >>> > bazel (
> >> >> > >>> > https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/4368), and
> I don't
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > >>> > the
> >> >> > >>> > energy to install an old version of bazel.
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > Version 0.11.0rc0 gets almost done and then complains about
> no such
> >> >> > >>> > file or
> >> >> > >>> > directory for libcudart.so.7.5 (which is there, where I told
> >> >> > tensorflow
> >> >> > >>> > it
> >> >> > >>> > was...).
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > Non-release versions from git fail immediately because they
> call git
> >> >> > -C
> >> >> > >>> > to
> >> >> > >>> > get version info, which is only in git 1.9 (we have 1.8).
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > Some other notes:
> >> >> > >>> > - I made a symlink from ~/.cache/bazel to
> >> >> > >>> > /home/scratch/$USER/.cache/bazel,
> >> >> > >>> > because bazel is the worst. (It complains about doing things
> on NFS,
> >> >> > >>> > and
> >> >> > >>> > hung for me [clock-related?], and I can't find a global
> config file
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > >>> > anything to change that in; it seems like there might be
> one, but
> >> >> > their
> >> >> > >>> > documentation is terrible.)
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > - I wasn't able to use the actual Titan X compute capability
> of 6.1,
> >> >> > >>> > because that requires cuda 8; I used 5.2 instead. Probably
> not a huge
> >> >> > >>> > deal,
> >> >> > >>> > but I don't know.
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > - I tried explicitly including /usr/local/cuda/lib64 in
> >> >> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> >> >> > >>> > and
> >> >> > >>> > set CUDA_HOME to /usr/local/cuda before building, hoping
> that would
> >> >> > >>> > help
> >> >> > >>> > with the 0.11.0rc0 problem, but it didn't.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
>
>
>
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