[ACT-R-users] Act-r time question

[Emond, Bruno]

Bruno wants to recall his previous emails and buy a new pair of glasses.
Found the problem.
A syntax error in naming the retrieval buffer.
All makes sense now.

Bruno

On Nov 4, 2004, at 14:03, Emond, Bruno wrote:

> There it is.
> Thanks for the clarification as to where the time is spent.
> Bruno
>
> On Nov 4, 2004, at 13:53, Dan Bothell wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --On Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:43 PM -0500 "Emond, Bruno"
> > <bruno.emond at nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > I am a little bit puzzled by the following act-r trace.
> > >
> > > The productions are fairly simple.
> > > ?Recall-Text-Location calls +retrieval>
> > > ?Test-Recall-Not-Successful tests that
> > >    =retrieval> isa error condition failure
> > >    the it changes the goal to find the visual location
> > >    of a text
> > > None of these productions do pm calls.
> > >
> > > The productions ?Find-Text-Location and ?Attend-To-Text
> > > call respectively +visual-location and +visual
> > >
> > > My question is what has appended to the time spent on
> > > ?Recall-Text-Location
> > > which shows when ?Test-Recall-Not-Successful fires?
> > >
> > > I am running act-r/pm 2.2
> > >
> > >  Time  0.000: Vision found LOC103
> > >  Time  0.000: ?Recall-Text-Location Selected
> > >  Time  0.050: ?Recall-Text-Location Fired
> > >  Time  2.050: ?Test-Recall-Not-Successful Selected
> > >  Time  0.100: ?Test-Recall-Not-Successful Fired
> > >  Time  0.100: ?Find-Text-Location Selected
> > >  Time  0.150: ?Find-Text-Location Fired
> > >  Time  0.150: Module :VISION running command FIND-LOCATION
> > >  Time  0.150: Vision found LOC104
> > >  Time  0.150: ?Attend-To-Text Selected
> > >  Time  0.200: ?Attend-To-Text Fired
> > >  Time  0.200: Module :MOTOR running command MOVE-CURSOR
> > >  Time  0.200: Module :VISION running command MOVE-ATTENTION
> > >  Time  0.285: Module :VISION running command ENCODING-COMPLETE
> > >  Time  0.285: Vision sees TEXT100
> > >  Time  0.285: ?Text-Found Selected
> > >  Time  0.335: ?Text-Found Fired
> > >  ...
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Without seeing the model I can't really say, but it definitely looks
> > like there's either a bug in ACT-R or in your model.  If you send me
> > the full model I can take a look at it and give you more details and
> > fix the bug in ACT-R if that's what's wrong.
> >
> > Ignoring the problem with the backward time jump and just looking
> > at this piece:
> >
> > >  Time  0.000: Vision found LOC103
> > >  Time  0.000: ?Recall-Text-Location Selected
> > >  Time  0.050: ?Recall-Text-Location Fired
> > >  Time  2.050: ?Test-Recall-Not-Successful Selected
> >
> > I want to comment on your concern about the "time spent on
> > ?Recall-Text-Location".  Conceptually, there was only 50 ms
> > spent on ?Recall-Text-Location - from time 0 to time .05.  The
> > two seconds from .05 until 2.05 when ?Test-Recall-Not-Successful
> > was selected were spent "idle" in the procedural system.  Those
> > two seconds were time that the declarative system spent trying
> > to find a chunk as requested.  If there had been any productions
> > that matched the contents of the buffers after ?Recall-Text-Location
> > fired but before the declarative system signaled the failure
> > they could have fired in that intervening 2 seconds.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
>
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> <timebug.lisp><ATT258721.txt>