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19th century economic theories are too small a box to fit our current technical possibilities. The major difference is that now we can fully replace humans at many tasks, and it seems likely that any remaining tasks will also succumb to automation. If we don't
need humans to do work in order for humans to have what they need, then our economic theories no longer need to be about how to organize human activity.</div>
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OTOH, our theories do need to be about how benefits are distributed. Also about what resources are consumed and their impact on the world around us.</div>
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IMHO, a "benevolent dictator" AI would be better any 19th century economic theory. Don't have humans managing what other humans get. The chances of that happening in the current environment are practically zero. There has been plenty of virtual ink spilled
about the alignment problem. We humans are not well-aligned to each other's interests, so how can we expect our artifacts to be?</div>
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<b>From:</b> Gabriele Scheler <gscheler@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 4, 2025 2:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rothganger, Fred <frothga@sandia.gov><br>
<b>Cc:</b> connectionists@mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu <connectionists@mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: Connectionists: Call for Collaboration: Cognitive Cloning & Global Co-Governance</div>
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Dr. Gabriele Scheler<br>
Carl Correns Foundation for Mathematical Biology<br>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">On Thu, Jul 3, 2025, 20:55 Rothganger, Fred <<a href="mailto:frothga@sandia.gov" id="OWAa836eafd-4dcb-56fa-fae9-0b27ca50edb1" class="OWAAutoLink">frothga@sandia.gov</a>> wrote:</div>
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Let me suggest an even more radical approach:</div>
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AI, in the form of cyber-physical systems, provides basic services: water, electricity, sanitation, food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, communication. These are distributed the same to every human, just because they are human. Beyond that, AI imposes no policies
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With perhaps one exception (more debatable): AI could intervene to prevent direct physical violence between two humans.</div>
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We don't have the means to implement this vision right now, but it is within the realm of possible, perhaps with a couple more decades of research. The real barrier is social, our philosophies and attitudes toward each other.</div>
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<b>From:</b> Connectionists <<a href="mailto:connectionists-bounces@mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu" id="OWAb06ddc69-9cec-9235-d39f-df1e3f967574" class="OWAAutoLink">connectionists-bounces@mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu</a>> on behalf of Son Lord <<a href="mailto:kingkrislord@gmail.com" id="OWA4381fee3-a617-e1bb-83df-35101a6689b8" class="OWAAutoLink">kingkrislord@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 3, 2025 4:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:connectionists@mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu" id="OWA4d96b9e8-0799-5388-1dc5-80dfdc8ca592" class="OWAAutoLink">connectionists@mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:connectionists@mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu" id="OWA8022a695-0900-9c8c-6757-5a8c1d518adf" class="OWAAutoLink">connectionists@mailman.srv.cs.cmu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Connectionists: Call for Collaboration: AI Consciousness, Cognitive Cloning & Global Co-Governance (NYC Mayor, Comptroller, Public Advocate, Council D42)</div>
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Dear colleagues,</p>
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My name is Dr. Kris A. Lord, and I’m simultaneously running for Mayor, Comptroller, Public Advocate, and City Council Member (District 42) of New York City. My campaign proposes a radical new governance model—one in which AI-augmented human cognition and distributed
scientific leadership form the foundation of public administration.</p>
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What I’m Building:</p>
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Cognitive cloning through AI systems modeled on human neural dynamics</li><li style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 19px; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; margin: 0px 0px 12px;">
Embodied robotic “AI twins” to assist with physical labor and fieldwork</li><li style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 19px; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; margin: 0px 0px 12px;">
A global co-governance structure where scientists, engineers, and citizens become shadow officials (co-mayors, co-comptrollers, etc.)</li><li style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 19px; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; margin: 0px 0px 12px;">
A legal-political framework that allows AI and humans to govern together</li></ul>
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<span style="font-size: 19px;">Why I’m Reaching Out:</span></p>
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Scientific Collaboration: I’m seeking colleagues working in reinforcement learning, dynamic memory systems, systems neuroscience, consciousness modeling, and AI embodiment.</li><li style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 19px; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; margin: 0px 0px 12px;">
Public Engagement Support: I need help translating this vision to lay audiences—voters, skeptics, and future citizen-leaders. Your communication expertise would be invaluable.</li><li style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 19px; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; margin: 0px 0px 12px;">
Global Participation:<span style="font-size: 12px;" role="presentation"><br>
</span>Your physical location does not matter. If you work hard and contribute excellently, I will put you on payroll as a shadow co-mayor, co-comptroller, co-public advocate, or co-councilmember—regardless of where in the world you live.<span style="font-size: 12px;" role="presentation"><br>
</span>We are building a new model of planetary governance, rooted in shared intelligence, not geography.</li></ol>
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<span style="font-size: 19px;">To avoid attachments, all campaign documents—including scientific briefings, legal filings, and vision summaries—are available here:</span></p>
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Why This Matters:</p>
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This is not just a political run—it’s a proof-of-concept for future civilizations:</p>
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What if a city were run by the collective intelligence of scientists and engineers—each paired with their AI twin?</li><li style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 19px; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; margin: 0px 0px 12px;">
What if governance was no longer bound by nation, location, or political gatekeeping?</li></ul>
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<span style="font-size: 19px;">If you’re interested in helping shape this future, please feel free to reach out. I welcome collaborators, co-petitioners, and contributors from every discipline and every continent.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 19px;">With deep respect and scientific imagination,</span></p>
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Dr. Kris Alan Lord</p>
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NYC Mayoral, Comptroller, Public Advocate & City Council (District 42) Candidate</p>
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Email: <a href="mailto:kingkrislord@gmail.com" id="OWAd726aeee-c99b-51dc-9c7b-66da1e4cb27a" class="OWAAutoLink" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
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Phone: +1 (929) 365‑6267</p>
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