<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Gabriele Scheler</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:gscheler@gmail.com">gscheler@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 5:07 PM<br>Subject: Re: Connectionists: Nobel awards<br>To: Eric Postma <<a href="mailto:eric.postma@gmail.com">eric.postma@gmail.com</a>><br></div><br><br><div dir="auto"><div>I don't think it's about fairness ( we are not children) it is about relevance. And there are very serious problems here. It is about our understanding as scientists and the routes that we take. Is it chemistry to take a large database and apply some fairly trivial algorithms? The work is the database. There was no breakthrough as people claimed it is simply that the compute became available to use it for training. - Some have suggested a Nobel prize in literature for Sam Altman. - Can we be so sure that this kind of AI is not subject to ridicule for a reason? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--<br><br><br>Dr. Gabriele Scheler<br>Carl Correns Foundation for Mathematical Biology<br>1030 Judson Dr<br>Mountain View, CA 94040 <br><br><a href="https://www.theoretical-biology.org" target="_blank">https://www.theoretical-biology.org</a><br><br><br>Please re-send an email if I fail to respond.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 9, 2024, 16:52 Eric Postma <<a href="mailto:eric.postma@gmail.com" target="_blank">eric.postma@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear connectionists,<div><br></div><div>Every Nobel award leads to endless discussions about fairness. Let's not focus on that, but celebrate the great achievements of our fellow researchers who were awarded yesterday (Hopfield and Hinton) and today (Baker, Hassabis, and Jumper).</div><div><br></div><div>Eric Postma<br clear="all"><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><a href="mailto:eric.postma@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">eric.postma@gmail.com</a>, <br></div><div>Cognitive Science & AI, Tilburg University (D144)</div><div>JADS, 's-Hertogenbosch, Tilburg University/Eindhoven University of Technology</div><div><br></div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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</div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><span><span><div style="text-align:right"><span><span><span></span></span></span></div></span></span>Dr. Gabriele Scheler<br>Carl Correns Foundation for Mathematical Biology<span><div style="text-align:right"><span><span><span><span></span></span></span></span></div></span>1030 Judson Dr<br>Mountain View, CA 94040 </div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.theoretical-biology.org" target="_blank">https://www.theoretical-biology.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:right"><span><span><span><span></span></span></span></span></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Please re-send an email if I fail to respond.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>