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<p>Gary, this was before the LLM discovery. Pierre is proposing a moonshot idea, that doesn't involve leaving the blackbox in the hands of corporate types who value profits over knowledge. OPENAI seems to be flailing and having serious safety and security
issues. It certainly could be recipe for diaster.<br>
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<p>Frankly your views have been all over the place. DL doesn't work, DL could work but should be merged with the useless flotsam and jetsam from GOFAI over the last 50 years, and now they are too dangerous because they work but they are unreliable, like most
humans.</p>
<p>Its hard to know what views of yours to take seriously as they seem change so rapidly.
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<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Stephen<br>
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<span>I would appreciate feedback from this group,especially dissenting feedback, on the attached Op-ed. You can send it to my personal email which you can find on my university web site if you prefer. The basic idea is simple:</span><br>
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<span>IF for scientific, security, or other societal reasons we want academics to develop and study the most advanced forms of AI, I can see only one solution: create a national or international effort around the largest data/computing center on Earth with
a CERN-like structure comprising permanent staff, and 1000s of affiliated academic laboratories. There are many obstacles, but none is completely insurmountable if we wanted to.</span><br>
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<span>Thank you.</span><br>
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<span>Pierre</span><br>
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Professor of Psychology
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