<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 15, 2024, at 8:17 AM, David H Kirshner <dkirsh@lsu.edu> wrote:</div><div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;"><br><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">Back in Alan Turing’s time when AI meant symbolic AI, </span><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666667px;">…</span><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">.</span></font></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It’s nice to create a revisionist history to bolster an argument, but…</div><div><br></div><div>Back in Alan Turing's time AI did not exist. Symbolic or neural.  Turing’s paper is quite readable and anticilpates many of the issues still discussed. It can be found here:</div><div><br></div><div><div style="display: block;"><div style="-webkit-user-select: all; -webkit-user-drag: element; display: inline-block;" class="apple-rich-link" draggable="true" role="link" data-url="https://academic.oup.com/mind/article/LIX/236/433/986238?login=false"><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;display:block;-webkit-user-select:none;width:300px;user-select:none;-webkit-user-modify:read-only;user-modify:read-only;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none;" class="lp-rich-link" rel="nofollow" href="https://academic.oup.com/mind/article/LIX/236/433/986238?login=false" dir="ltr" role="button" draggable="false" width="300"><table style="table-layout:fixed;border-collapse:collapse;width:300px;background-color:#E5E6E9;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="lp-rich-link-emailBaseTable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300"><tbody><tr><td vertical-align="center" align="center"><img style="width:300px;filter:brightness(0.97);height:135px;" width="300" height="135" draggable="false" class="lp-rich-link-mediaImage" alt="m_lix-236-433f1.jpeg" src="cid:500346E0-C2BC-4297-95C5-1CBEC02E8427"></td></tr><tr><td vertical-align="center"><table bgcolor="#E5E6E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;table-layout:fixed;background-color:rgba(229, 230, 233, 1);" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:8px 0px 8px 0px;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStackItem"><div style="max-width:100%;margin:0px 16px 0px 16px;overflow:hidden;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:500;font-size:12px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-topCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://academic.oup.com/mind/article/LIX/236/433/986238?login=false" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#272727" style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.847059);">I.—COMPUTING MACHINERY AND INTELLIGENCE</font></a></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:400;font-size:11px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-bottomCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://academic.oup.com/mind/article/LIX/236/433/986238?login=false" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#808080" style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.498039);">academic.oup.com</font></a></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div><div style="display: block;"><br></div><div style="display: block;"><br></div><div style="display: block;">David</div><div style="display: block;"><br></div><div style="display: block;">——<br>David Poole,  <br>Department of Computer Science,   <br>University of British Columbia,   <br>https://cs.ubc.ca/~poole<br>poole@cs.ubc.ca</div></div></div></body></html>