<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">More seriously, it is sad that we can’t have an intelligent, moderated discussion. </div><div dir="ltr">Gary</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 10, 2024, at 07:42, Gary Marcus <gary.marcus@nyu.edu> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Oh lookie, another potshot at the end of an apology for taking potshots. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">That’s too perfect! </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Gary</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 10, 2024, at 07:33, Geoffrey Hinton <geoffrey.hinton@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">I am sorry that i took a potshot at you. I will do my best not to do it again. Your aim in life seems to be to get attention and I regret facilitating this.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Geoff</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 8:14 AM Gary Marcus <<a href="mailto:gary.marcus@nyu.edu">gary.marcus@nyu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Geoff, <br>
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Please stop taking potshots. Face me. <br>
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You say I am irrelevant, yet you attack (and misrepresent) me regularly in your talks, including both this morning at The Vector Institute, and your “just weights” riff in the Fall. On your web page, you have more mentions of me than Yann LeCun. (What greater measure of relevance could there be?) <br>
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To make it easy for you, I will come to Toronto, on your home turf. (Perhaps Vector Institute and Web Summit could co-host). <br>
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We will get a neutral moderator, and a huge audience. And we can fight together for the things we are actually both concerned about, around AI safety, and make a huge statement by doing so.<br>
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The world will learn from the debate—and also from our overlap. It will be win-win for the world. <br>
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— Gary<br>
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