<div dir="ltr">Brad,<div><br></div><div>You wrote "Itti Koch & Niebur (1998) ... salience computation in vision"</div><div><br></div><div>With due respect, I think salience is a very small piece of attention. Maybe 10%?</div><div>Based on studies in six disciplines, attention is mainly top-down, guided by self-generated intent.</div><div>That is how our DN models a general framework of attention, represented in the state/action that the network self-generated. In this model, salience is about 10%, when state/action is "none".<br><br>Sorry, the meth is a lot more complex. I am trying to communicate in an intuitive way.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>-John</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 8:31 AM Brad Wyble <<a href="mailto:bwyble@gmail.com">bwyble@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Tsvi you wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> For example in cognitive psychology there is a rich literature on salience (which again is a bit different from salience in the neural network community). Salience is a dynamic process which determines how well a certain input or input feature is processed. Salience changes in the brain depending on what other inputs or features are concurrently present or what the person is instructed to focus on. There is very little appreciation, integration or implementation of these findings in neural networks, yet salience plays a factor in every recognition decision and modality including smell and touch.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm having trouble understanding what you mean by this, since computational modelling of salience is a major thrust of computer vision. Itti Koch & Niebur (1998) has been cited 13,000 times and there are hundreds of papers that have elaborated on this ANN approach to salience computation in vision. Is this not what you're asking for? If not, what am I misunderstanding?</div><div><br></div><div>kind regards</div><div>-Brad</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Juyang (John) Weng<br></div></div>