<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Steve,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’d love to hear you elaborate on this part, </div><div class=""><span style="font-size: large; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(236, 202, 153);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: large; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(236, 202, 153);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(236, 202, 153);" class="">Many more shoes will drop in the next few years. I for one don't believe one of those shoes will be Hybrid approaches to AI, I've seen that movie before and it didn't end well. </span><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div>I’d love your take on why you think the impetus towards hybrid models ended badly before, and why you think that the mistakes of the past can’t be corrected. Also it’ would be really instructive to compare with deep learning, which lost steam for quite some time, but reemerged much stronger than ever before. Might not the same happen with hybrid models?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I am cc’ing some folks (possibly not on this list) who have recently been sympathetic to hybrid models, in hopes of a rich discussion. (And, Geoff, still cc’d, I’d genuinely welcome your thoughts if you want to add them, despite our recent friction.)</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Cheers, </div><div>Gary </div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:10 AM, Stephen José Hanson <<a href="mailto:jose@rubic.rutgers.edu" class="">jose@rubic.rutgers.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><font size="+1" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(236, 202, 153); text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="">I would encourage you to read the whole transcript, as you will see the discussion does intersect with a number of issues<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif" class="">you raised in an earlier post on what is learned/represented in DLs.</font><br class=""></font><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(236, 202, 153); text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""></span><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(236, 202, 153); text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><font size="+1" class="">Its important for those paying attention to this thread, to realize these are still very early times. Many more shoes will drop in the next few years. I for one don't believe one of those shoes will be Hybrid approaches to AI, I've seen that movie before and it didn't end well. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></font></font></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(236, 202, 153); text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><font size="+1" class="">Best and hope you are doing well.</font></font></p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(236, 202, 153); text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><font size="+1" class="">Steve</font></font></p></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>