Connectionists: How the brain works

Gary Cottrell gary at eng.ucsd.edu
Tue Jan 28 15:52:06 EST 2014


I think everyone is a tad over-reacting - read the RFP below from NIH. It does include theory as a major component…

The purpose of this FOA is to provide resources for integrated development of experimental, analytic and theoretical capabilities for large-scale analysis of neural systems and circuits.  We seek applications for exploratory studies that use new and emerging methods for large scale recording and manipulation of neural circuits across multiple brain regions.  Applications should propose to elucidate the contributions of dynamic circuit activity to a specific behavioral or neural system.  Studies should incorporate rich information on cell-types, on circuit functionality and connectivity, and should be performed in conjunction with sophisticated analysis of ethologically relevant behaviors.  Applications should propose teams of investigators that seek to cross boundaries of interdisciplinary collaboration by bridging fields and linking theory and data analysis to experimental design.  Exploratory studies supported by this FOA are intended to develop experimental capabilities and theoretical frameworks in preparation for a future competition for large scale awards.

On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Avi Peled <neuroanalysis at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Ivan I agree - and even more, neuroscientific application to psychiatry is even more at its infancy - but unfortunately patients are suffering immensely and cannot wait - the attached paper tries to tackle the problem of neuroscientific psychiatry - comments are welcome 
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> Abraham
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> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Ivan Raikov <ivan.g.raikov at gmail.com> wrote:
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> My summary of the history of physics was quite wrong: the idea of infinitesimals and their application has been around since the time of Archimedes:
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> http://www.idsia.ch/~juergen/archimedes.html 
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinitesimal
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> The moral is, it takes a while for fundamental ideas in science to promulgate :-)
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> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Ivan Raikov <ivan.g.raikov at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Speaking of radio and electromagnetic waves, it is perhaps the case that neuroscience has not yet reached the maturity of 19th century physics: while the discovery of electromagnetism is attributed to great  experimentalists such as Ampere and Faraday, and its mathematical model is attributed to one of the greatest modelers in physics, Maxwell, none of it happened in isolation. There was a lot of duplicated experimental work and simultaneous independent discoveries in that time period, and Maxwell's equations were readily accepted and quickly refined by a number of physicists after he first postulated them. So in a sense physics had a consensus community model of electromagnetism already in the first half of the 19th century. Neuroscience is perhaps more akin to physics in the  17th century, when Newton's infinitesimal calculus was rejected and even mocked by the scientific establishment on the continent, and many years would pass until calculus was understood and widely accepted. So a unifying theory of neuroscience may not come until a lot of independent and reproducible experimentation brings it about. 
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>   -Ivan
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> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Thomas Trappenberg <tt at cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> Some of our discussion seems to be about 'How the brain works'. I am of course not smart enough to answer this question. So let me try another system.
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> How does a radio work? I guess it uses an antenna to sense an electromagnetic wave that is then  amplified so that an electromagnet can drive a membrane to produce an airwave that can be sensed by our ear. Hope this captures some essential aspects.
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> Now that you know, can you repair it when it doesn't work?
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