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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:blue">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"">undocumented features and bugs”? In Dan’s code? How DARE you Sir!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> act-r-users-bounces@act-r.psy.cmu.edu [mailto:act-r-users-bounces@act-r.psy.cmu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Samms<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 July 2009 13:41<br>
<b>To:</b> Stu @ AGS; 'Kelley, Troy (Civ,ARL/HRED)'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ACT-R-users] Act-r in C++ (UNCLASSIFIED)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Actually, the "string" (is that a Java Freudian slip) justification for a rewrite is the "rethink" that occurs in the process. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I have never known of any rewrite that did not result in more efficient, smaller code/executables, and/or the correction of "undocumented features' and bugs.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To paraphrase, "I don't know what the language of the future will look like, but it will be called C something or other."</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:stu@agstechnet.com" title="stu@agstechnet.com">Stu @ AGS</a> <o:p>
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<a href="mailto:tkelley@arl.army.mil" title="tkelley@arl.army.mil">'Kelley, Troy (Civ,ARL/HRED)'</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:13 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Re: [ACT-R-users] Act-r in C++ (UNCLASSIFIED)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">While its not the question you asked, I know that attempts and some success have been made porting ACT-R to Java.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">See:
<a href="http://act-r.psy.cmu.edu/workshops/workshop-2002/talks/AnthonyHarrison.pdf">
http://act-r.psy.cmu.edu/workshops/workshop-2002/talks/AnthonyHarrison.pdf</a>; or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/jactr/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/jactr/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Normally, I am not in favor of implementing an existing tool in another language unless there is some string justification for it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">Stu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> act-r-users-bounces@act-r.psy.cmu.edu [mailto:act-r-users-bounces@act-r.psy.cmu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kelley, Troy (Civ,ARL/HRED)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ACT-R-users] Act-r in C++ (UNCLASSIFIED)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Classification: <b><u> UNCLASSIFIED</u></b>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Is there any thought, or have there been any discussions, of porting ACT-R over to C++? I know I can see Christian rolling his eyes from here ;-).. But I think it would be a useful
project for someone.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Troy D. Kelley</span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Classification: </span><b><u><span lang="EN-US">
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