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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mea culpa. Of course I was speaking in
generalities and humbly beg indulgence...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Core dumps in Linux and blue screens on
Windows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Registry errors and missing file
fragments</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Unmountable disks tied up in some
threads </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>These are a few of my favorite
dreads</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT><BR></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=d.peebles@hud.ac.uk href="mailto:d.peebles@hud.ac.uk">David
Peebles</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=richard.samms@ieee.org
href="mailto:richard.samms@ieee.org">'Richard Samms'</A> ; <A
title=stu@agstechnet.com href="mailto:stu@agstechnet.com">Stu @ AGS</A> ; <A
title=tkelley@arl.army.mil href="mailto:tkelley@arl.army.mil">'Kelley, Troy
(Civ,ARL/HRED)'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu
href="mailto:act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu">act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:55
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ACT-R-users] Act-r in C++
(UNCLASSIFIED)</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>undocumented
features and bugs”? In Dan’s code? How DARE you
Sir!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Outraged, UK.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>===<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>David Peebles PhD CPsychol<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Department of Behavioural Sciences,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>University of Huddersfield,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Queensgate,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Huddersfield,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>HD1 3DH, UK.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Tel. +44 (0) 148 447 3620<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><A
href="http://www2.hud.ac.uk/hhs/staff/shumdp.php">http://www2.hud.ac.uk/hhs/staff/shumdp.php</A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><A
href="http://www.iccm2009.net">http://www.iccm2009.net</A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<DIV
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US> <A
href="mailto:act-r-users-bounces@act-r.psy.cmu.edu">act-r-users-bounces@act-r.psy.cmu.edu</A>
[mailto:act-r-users-bounces@act-r.psy.cmu.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard
Samms<BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 July 2009 13:41<BR><B>To:</B> Stu @ AGS; 'Kelley,
Troy (Civ,ARL/HRED)'<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu">act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [ACT-R-users] Act-r in C++
(UNCLASSIFIED)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Actually, the "string" (is that a Java Freudian slip) justification
for a rewrite is the "rethink" that occurs in the
process. </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>I have
never known of any rewrite that did not result in more efficient, smaller
code/executables, and/or the correction of "undocumented features' and
bugs.</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>On the
other hand, porting to a new language almost always results in the creation of
more horrifying things. </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>To
paraphrase, "I don't know what the language of the future will look like, but
it will be called C something or other."</SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>-----
Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US> <A
title=stu@agstechnet.com href="mailto:stu@agstechnet.com">Stu @ AGS</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US> <A
title=tkelley@arl.army.mil href="mailto:tkelley@arl.army.mil">'Kelley, Troy
(Civ,ARL/HRED)'</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US> <A
title=act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu
href="mailto:act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu">act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:13 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US> Re:
[ACT-R-users] Act-r in C++ (UNCLASSIFIED)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>While its not the question you asked, I know that attempts and
some success have been made porting ACT-R to Java.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>See: <A
href="http://act-r.psy.cmu.edu/workshops/workshop-2002/talks/AnthonyHarrison.pdf">http://act-r.psy.cmu.edu/workshops/workshop-2002/talks/AnthonyHarrison.pdf</A>;
or<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>
<A
href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/jactr/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/jactr/</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Normally, I am not in favor of implementing an existing tool in
another language unless there is some string justification for
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Stu<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
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href="mailto:stu@agstechnet.com">stu@agstechnet.com</A></SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
act-r-users-bounces@act-r.psy.cmu.edu
[mailto:act-r-users-bounces@act-r.psy.cmu.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kelley,
Troy (Civ,ARL/HRED)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:02
PM<BR><B>To:</B> act-r-users@act-r.psy.cmu.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[ACT-R-users] Act-r in C++ (UNCLASSIFIED)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Classification: <B><U> UNCLASSIFIED</U></B> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Caveats: NONE</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US> <BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US> <BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Hello,</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Is there any thought, or have there been any discussions, of
porting ACT-R over to C++? I know I can see Christian rolling his eyes
from here ;-).. But I think it would be a useful project for
someone.</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>Troy D. Kelley</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US> <BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>RDRL-HRS-EA</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US> <BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>U.S.
Army Research Laboratory</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US> <BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>Human
Research and Engineering Directorate (HRED)</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US>
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